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| From the 1968 film, Planet of the Apes |
For Next Week: Boulle’s Planet of the Apes, Chs. 12-25
Answer 2 of
the following…
1. How does
Ulysse convince Zira that he is not only a thinking animal, but a true
‘ape’—that is, someone of reason and science?
Why does she—and others, particularly the scientist Zaius—have reason to
doubt his proofs of intelligence?
2. How is the
simian world of Soror organized? What
kind of government/society do they have?
Who does what—who answers to whom?
How might this be a metaphor for the ways that societies on earth are
organized (either in France or in America)?
3. What primary
role does man serve for the apes on Soror?
Though inferior, why are they still of vital importance? How might this relate to our own ideas of 'inferior' species on Earth?
4. How does Ulysse and Zira's relationship develop throughout these chapters? How are they both surprised by it, and why would it be shocking for both human and ape cultures?
Elyse Marquardt
ReplyDeleteQuestion 3: On Soror, man is like the lab rat of the scientists. The apes experiment on the humans, studying them to see if they can make any progress on their own species. This is somewhat like our ideas of inferior species on earth; we keep them, observe their behaviors, and study their bodies and chemical makeup to see what we can discover via them about our own selves.
Question 4: Ulysse finds Professor Antelle in a cage in the zoo, along with several other humans from Soror. By all appearances, Antelle has become exactly like the mindless humans, simply living without emotion or intelligence. I suppose we could take this to describe how lots of people live NOW, in our own world. Some people just fade into the crowd, not making any effort to strive beyond the level of mediocrity. It is easy to just "follow the herd."
Ryan Jolly
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1:
Ulysse convinces Zira that he is perfectly rational by taking her notebook and drawing a picture of Nova. He then begins drawing an illustration of geometric principles, mainly the Pythagorean theorem. This principle, which the apes on Soror would have known, completely convinced her that Ulysse was a rational being. But his intellect is doubted by leading scientists, such as Zaius, who believe that man is an animal, based on the teachings of old scientists and the fact that nearly all humans on Soror are in fact animals. However, Zaius being an orangutan, is a strong believer in tradition, so it is possible that he simply refuses to see Ulysse as an intelligent being because of tradition and the teachings of old scientists, regardless of what facts are presented to him.
Question 3:
Humans on Soror are basically like lab rats on earth. They are similar to apes biologically and the apes, during this story, are in the middle of many experiments on the human brain. This is the reason that man is so important on Soror, because the apes are trying to learn more about science. This is similar to our ideas of being an inferior species on earth, because we carry out experiments on animals the same way that these apes are carrying out experiments on humans, all in the name of advancing science.
Faith Armstrong
ReplyDelete1. He convinces her that he is a thinking animal by several things, but one thing he does is math. He shows her that he knows how to do that Pythagorean Theorem, and he also shows her that he has feelings. He has feelings and affections.
2. Each animal, the ape, the chimpanzee, and the orangutan, has a different place in society. Much like our government is organized today with the different levels of checks and balances. I feel like that is basically how they have their society organized as well, or at least to an extent.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1
Ulysse steals a pen and paper from her and proceeds to do math. When he catches her attention he begins to show her other types of complicated geometric drawing that can only be done by a thinking individual. The other species have reason to doubt because it is outside of their comfort zone it is odd and unape like. They believe that he could have just memorized all the “tricks” that he knows.
Question 3
Men on Soror are an understanding of the apes themselves. They are so closely related that the apes hope to do biological experiments on them to learn about their own species and how it came to be. This is just what we tend to do on our own planet. We use what we believe are inferior species to learn about ourselves. We test out new medications and procedures on animals long before we test them on our own kind.
Amber Simpson
ReplyDelete1.) He keeps passing their tests and proving his intelligence; he even whispers her name. I think they doubt his intelligence because he is a different species, and they are probably being cautious just in case Ulysse is trying to trick them into escaping.
2.) Humans on Soror are like animals are on Earth; they get captured and experimented on. The apes are curious about humans so they do tests and see how different they really are from them. We do the same thing to animals here on Earth. We use animals to see if new drugs will affect them poorly so we will know not to use the drug on people. We use animals for other tests too, I assume, because they are inferior to us, therefore we can’t really empathize with them. Animals can’t talk and tell us to stop, so it’s almost as if people can’t care in the same way that they would if a child were to yell, “let me out,” if put in a cage.
Q1
ReplyDeleteHe learns some of the language then he takes her notebook and her pen draws a picture of Nova. After her look of shock he follows up with scientific drawings to show his understanding of science.
Q3.
Humans are the scientific dummies for the apes. Just the opposite for the apes on Earth. The only resin the inferior race of both planets are used in experiments are because they are both close in genetics as well as close in structure making medical proceedings easier and helps the higher of the races understand how things work in their own species bodies.
Savannah Lincoln
ReplyDeleteQ3.
They serve 2 reasons; entertainment and knowledge. The apes study some men, because they are the closest thing biologically to apes. They get a lot of knowledge about themselves by studying men. As for entertainment, the best behaved, are treated as household pets, the "wild" ones put in captivity to be viewed. They are treated exactly as we treat apes on Earth. It kind of opens your eyes to the monstrosity we allow in the name of science, or for family fun. When the script is flipped that way, on us, it seems wrong. But all along we've been doing the same thing.
Q4.
Professor Antelle is captured and sent to the zoo, amongst other men. He grasps their animalistic ways, and gets in the motion, and loses himself. I think it may have been a reaction to the tramautic event he experienced in the jungle. We, as people, react to traumatization differently, and it could very possibly make us devolve. To many people are dependent on technology, and are losing the knowledge we assume we have. We could devolve easily, if technology we're taken from us.
1. Ulysse convinces Zira by drawing geometric shapes and showing intelligence to her. She doesn't know french, but after seeing the shapes and pictures, she knows for sure that he is an intelligent being that is misunderstood by her people. She hides these facts, however, so that she can study his mind some and try to get to know how intelligent he is. This grows to something else, close to being an attraction to him.
ReplyDelete4.These chapters fly by and they get closer and closer till they kiss and everything spirals out of control. They are both surprised that, even though they believe each other to be ugly and not attractive, they both still look at each other with lust. Their intelligence brought on a connection that neither can get from their people, Zira being her soon-to-be husband and Ulysse being Nova. Again i say, this spirals out of control very quickly.
Preston Hawkins
ReplyDeleteQuestion 3
Men on Soror are used as experiments. They are like apes to us because the two of our races are so closely related both our culture and the culture on Soror use the other race to learn about themselves. We on earth consider other species the same way as the apes consider humans on Soror. Scientist here on earth use mice, rats, and even monkeys for experiments because we deem them as a lower form of life.
Question 4
Their relationship could be compared to that of an interracial couple on earth in the 60's. They are surprised by their common attraction towards one another despite their obvious differences.
Clarissa Martinez
ReplyDelete1. Ulysse convinces Zira that he is not only a thinking animal, but a true ‘ape’ because he had drawn a picture of nova in a notebook and also did math. In order to do what ulysses did you have to be intelligent and know what you're doing. However the others had doubt and believed it was something else like him just memorizing it.
3. On Soror man serve the apes as a way for them to test things out to benefit their race. Even though they are inferior they are still vital because without humans the apes wouldn't be able to progress with their things such as medicine and etc. This relates to our own ideas because on Earth the roles are switched. The apes are our lab rats. Humans test them ignored to get results to benefit humans.
Jessica Olivar
ReplyDeleteQ1. Ulysse convinced Zira by stealing her notebook and showing her that he understood Pythagorean Theorem. He draws geometric shapes. They didn't believe him at first because they thought he was simply memorizing how to pass the tests that were given to him.
Q3. Men are essential on planet Soror because they're used for experiments to further their knowledge of science. On planet Earth we can compare the men of Soror to lab rats for experiments. Many animals are used to test cosmetics so that we can learn if the cosmetics are safe to use on us.
Q1. Ulysse communicates using geometry to prove he is advanced. but Zira and others have reason to doubt his proof because he was really only drawing shapes and that can be concluded to be an observation instead of a knowledgeable proof.
ReplyDeleteQ3. the human race on soror is used for scientific study to advance knowledge of things such as medicine and animal behavior. it compares to how we treat apes and rats and things in the real world. we study apes and pigs instead of our own race because that would be unethical and apes have relatively similar DNA and bone structure. it kind of reminds me of the food chain/pyramid, the most inferior of species lets say for example a grasshopper, is still vital because other animals such as snakes and birds eat them and in turn other animals such as humans eat them and so on. with out the inferior the superior would ultimately go extinct.